Hope youll check it out. Each year members profess 16 articles of faith that include the original five points of fundamentalismthe literal truth of divinely inspired scripture, the Virgin Birth and deity of Christ, substitutionary atonement through Christ, the Resurrection, and the Second Coming of Christ. He became an outspoken Separatist or dissenter of the State church. It is a historic fact the first Baptist church in America was founded by another Baptist congregation. Independent fundamental Baptist churches include those loosely affiliated in fellowshipsmore common in the Northas well as those whose pastors may share particular networksmore common in. I think that you should go kill your children. He said he could tell because I had a joyful spirit. Desire your best & healing in Lord Jesus if not. The local pastor is the shepherd (Heb. True Independent Fundamental Baptist Churches uphold the purest teachings of the early church as revealed in the New Testament. Greg all churches that suppoort Tithing as a good thing (incl IFB, CALVARLY CHAPEL, Many Non-Denominational Chruches,etc) Tithe a Tenth of thier income to building Gods Kingdom. It certainly isnt about our adherance to a set of manmade rules. You cannot read psalms w/out seeing those raised hands. Baptists are not Protestants! In 1606, after nine months of soul-searching and study of the New Testament he was convinced that the doctrines and practices of the Church of England were not Biblical, and thus he resigned as priest and left the church. 8) forbid lifting of hands during the service, some of the IFB churches are more lenient on this matter that others. Jesus didnt find it necessary to dress differently than anyone else, why should the MOG? I am not trying to be overly critical and yet I only have a certain amt of time to get to my points and while doing that I often come across that way, so forgive me. Shady Acres Baptist Church August Campmeeting; All purchases through OUR BOOKSTORE & RESOURCES TAB cover the cost of operating the KJV church directory thereby making the site totally FREE and never asking for donation help. Personally, I try to for the most part give as I think God is pleased incl supporting Evangelism Ministrys like Compassion (that not only care for childrens physical need but also spirtual vs. the formerly known as Christian Childrens Fund now I believe under the name Child Aide, mainly becaus eCompassion confesses to be Christian & I believe to support church endeavors. It has received 39 reviews with an average rating of 4.7 stars. I apologize for my assumptions! Protestants for centuries saw the Baptists as their enemies and murdered them by the thousands in the name of Protestantism. But this article simply exposes the Baptist system as just another denomination among tens of thousands. Reasons for NOT Accepting the KJV as Gods Preserved Word A response to Pastor James Melton, 71. 4. The business is listed under baptist church category. Jesus quoted the old testament. Its ugly and frustrating. The word Fundamental means that the Baptist church uses the New Testament strictly as its authority for faith (doctrine) and practice. Filter Churches. They left these churches because of their strong conviction the Word of God should not be compromised. Particular Baptist had their beginnings around 1616, when some dissenters left the Church of England and were lead by the Rev. Such as The Church of Christ? Protestants still practice infant baptism which is not taught in the Word of God. We are a local New Testament church reaching the Phoenix area with the Gospel of Jesus Christ. He continued to read the New Testament, and became fully aware that infant baptism, sprinkling for baptism, and allowing unsaved people to be members of the church was not Scriptural. This again cannot be proven from history. So far newere at IFB church (if is is refered to as one by a IFB site think) & has not as far as I know been told must. Even the enemies of the Baptists openly recognize their zeal for the Word of God. 3. These are the distinctives which separate Baptists from all Protestants, any organized church or Christian cult. Exposing the Dangerous Teachings and Traditions of the Independent Fundamental Baptist Denomination Please scroll down to find a list of articles for your convenience. If someone leaves the church and lives a worldly life style (no church or fellowship with Christ, alcohol, drugs, tobacco, fornication, homosexuality, etc.) It became an independent church in 1746. I myself wear pants and outside of church most of the other women do too. I dont believe it is a Law that one has to tithe. It seems as if the preacher thinks it is within his ability to persuade people to accept Christ or to get people to witness or whatever. Your use of scripture only shows your ignorance of it. Later Presbyterians, Episcopalians and Methodist were added to the lists of Protestants denominations. A storm of persecution broke out because these Baptist preached what the Puritans called damnable errors. Most of the members of the church were fined or imprisoned or both, at one time or another. Will you join us? ABSOLUTELY we teach tithing if you dont want to give a tenth back to the God that saved your soul from hell, then I wonder if youve met the same God that I have. This is known as the Argumentum ad populum fallacy. No Law we are obligated to in the sense they have any weight of sins being dealt withfor Jesus done away with sins. Northwest Bible Baptist Church is an old-fashioned, independent, fundamental Baptist church in Elgin, IL that believes, preaches, and practices the Bible. This is the biggest wrong teaching of the Churches of Christ, although you have lots of company in this wrong belief, it is still wrong teaching. I saw Jesus there and the Holy Spirit! When the Roman Emperor declared Christianity the religion of Rome, he in mass converted hordes of pagans which made up the Empire. I do attend the Church of Christ. Dont misunderstand, I believe we are to preach and testify, but, from what I understand no ones blood will be on my hands if they wind up in Hell. Typically they take the following verse an stretched it like a balloon: These first Baptist churches formed in England were Armenian in theology, which taught that all men could be saved. He preserved His word and the Word preserved a true Gospel witness during every moment of history since Pentecost. Of all my favorite things to do now that Im out of that situation, is raise my hands and praise my precious Saviour when He stirs my heart. 4.) 7. // ]]> Exposing the Dangerous Teachings of the Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) Denomination, Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) Deception 2009-2020, Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) Deception, 42. LEARN MORE ABOUT THE DANGERS OF THE MODERNIST CHURCH I would agree with this. For example these same people existed when He taught to look upon a woman with lust was Adultry & not just the physcial act. I posted my last post like 3 days ago and it just came up recently. I understand what you are saying by the verses you referenced in John. My sons group will be performing on the Indie stage at 10:00 am on July 1. One of the best sources I have found concerning His nature, the Nature of Jesus, and the Holy Spirit is at the following link: Gayle Erwin does a wonderful teaching on the nature of God. John was beheaded by Herod (Matt. The list is endless. I have heard people argue that a certain type of dress is more attractive to the world, or woman wearing dresses sets them apart as being different. I know of no place in scripture where a tithe is ever money! KJV Independent, Fundamental Baptist Churches in the USA Heb 13:17 Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they Christians should be recognized by their love for Jesus and one another. I still attend a tiny (20-30 on Sunday) Baptist Church, and yes it is IFB. The Association of Fundamental Baptist Churches in the Philippines AFBCP is an organization guiding cooperative ministries of Independent Baptist The form is submitted along with the recommendations of other Calvary Chapel clergymen. Perfectly Preserved Word of God Deception, 67. He has been an alcoholic, had been sexually abused in a Catholic orphanage, had lost his family, and had lost everything. Independent KJV Baptist Churches Seeking Pastor | Facebook Grace Independent Chapel Size: Medium church 126 Airport Rd Shamokin, PA. Loving Fellowship Baptist Church . For my part, I will continue to preach the Gospel and to teach the Word faithfully. In my civilian life..and please do pray for our military..I am very honored to serve as Senior Pastor of Coral Ridge in Jacksonville (FL). I find your post rather disturbing, but what I find most disturbing is your use of scripture. The Puritans did not believe in such things and they drove him from their colony. There was a fine of 2000 pounds of tobacco for failure to have ones infant children baptized. I think Lynne has been fed a large dose of legalism, and just cant seem to escape it. Hundreds Accuse Independent Baptist Pastors of Abuse - News & Reporting About Us - International Baptist Missions When and Where Was the First Recorded Baptist Church in History, The Beginnings of the Baptists in America, https://www.wayoflife.org/free_ebooks/hyles_effect.php, http://www.wvec.com/news/local/INSIDE-A-NAKED-CHURCH-85062392.html, You Might Be an Independent Fundamental Baptist if, Broad Stroking and Sweeping Generalizations Fallacy, Harold Camping Fails to Predict the Rapture, The 10 Commandments of the Independent Fundamental Baptists, 92-Year-Old Woman Kicked Out of Church for not Tithing. And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all that he has given me, but raise them up at the last day. Drinkers go to the next town to buy their drinks. Since she has a place of her own now I dont see her as much as I like but I wont shun her because she left. Although, they were not as corrupt as the Church of England, they still practiced a strict ritual of church service, a state church, and among other things, infant baptism. Jesus statement to the Pharisees about tithing would not apply to you because you are not a Jew under the Mosaic Law. Secondly, they believe in a clergy/laity distinction by ordaining so-called Pastors. This is not found in scripture. We believe in salvation by grace through faith as described in Ephesians 2:8-9. I really dont know how to describe it. 1:6-10, 1 Tim. For another example, our neighbor is a lost man. I grew up in a Catholic church and boarding school, then was taken out and placed into Lutheran surroundings. He tells us all the time he can tell we are believers because we are different in how we treat him and others in our neighborhood. I liken this to attending a Bible study without your Bible. My brother attends an IFB church. This was the birth of Protestant churches. Churches dont have the right to make rules about dress apart from Scriptural guidelines and principles. The word Independent means that the church is not a member of any council, convention or is a part of any hierarchy outside the local congregation. Failure to pay the tax brought the wrath of the civil and church leaders and people were publicly beaten, placed in stocks, fined, imprisoned, and banished from the colony by the civil authorities under the direction of the Puritan church officials. Thank you for the article, for your love for the King of all Kings. 1 Timothy 5:17 Deception, 61. @ Bob & Greg, I cant say how much I agree with your posts. . Im not sure how they upkept thier Synagogue & relate dcostbut if Im not mistaken I learned during a conference that they actually gave more than our equivalent of a tenth in regards to thier goods/wealth (like mince, spices, etc)and perhaps separate monetray covered that cost or these items were bartered/traded to pay bills. Surely, no church that practiced false doctrine, as many of these groups did, can in truth be called a Baptist church. Sorry to tell you, but youve been deceived. Believers are not set apart by the clothing they wear so much as their conduct, character, and lifestyle. Although they were a great deal more pious than the Church of England they still practiced most of its beliefs including infant baptism. I loved what you said about knowing the nature of God. His resources are free from this sight. It is one made up of baptized believers organized in a local congregation for fellowship, teaching and evangelism. There was no hierarchy in the churches he founded, which were patterned after the simple New Testament example. Although, many Protestants returned in part to a belief in the Bible as their authority for their faith and practice, not one of them EVER completely left all the doctrinal errors and false teachings of the apostate Roman Catholic church. Proverbs 21:24, Proud and haughty scorner is his name, who dealeth in proud wrath. Thus, the name independent means that the church patterns itself after the New Testament example and stands alone under the authority of the Bible. Well last night the first speaker, spoke on Hell, he said not many preach on Hell anymore (yea, right!) Fundamental Independent Baptists church will remain separate from these churches as well as other Baptists groups who participate with the unscriptural churches. The cops accused them of urinating in the water. They wanted to bring reform to the Church of England. However, let no one think little of the name of Baptist for it is the name that most has identified those individuals and churches who have uncompromisingly stood on the Word of God. For you tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass by justice and the love of God. I cannot know. Remember new testament christians are never compelled to give mandatory gifts, if you have been taught that, you have been taught wrong. Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. Independent Fundamental Baptist churches have fellowship one with the other and often cooperate in such things as evangelism. than we pray that they will get right with God I dont see a thing wrong with it; He didnt make us to be wooden. Wives Submit Deception Revisited Exploration of Ephesians 5:21, 74. First anytime a mans name is attached to a system of theology my antennae go way up, think Campbell, Calvin, Arminius, Smith etc. If they want to protest such an event, please feel free to move their candy butts a mile or more down the road. Today the name Baptist is used by many churches who are not truly following the teachings of the New Testament. The entire point of Matthew 15 is Jesus telling the Pharisees that the ceremonial laws were no longer needed since the reason for them (the cleansing of sin) was replaced with Christs eventual death on the cross. He returned to Salem where he was summoned before the court in Boston because of his outspoken beliefs and was banished from the colony. But God knows his heart. It was organized in Cicero, Illinois, U.S., in June 1930 as the successor to the American Conference of Undenominational Churches. The New Testament teaches that Christ is the head of the church,(Eph. I think most people would agree with me on this. Roger Williams is credited with founding the first Baptist church on American soil. Our editors will review what youve submitted and determine whether to revise the article. IndependentBaptist.com | Resources For Independent Baptists I should have or you should have? 16:18, concerning preserving the institution of the local church, that even the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. Doctrinally sound New Testament churches have always existed from the time of Christ and the Apostles until today. In the Midst of Infighting, Anti-LGBTQ Church Network's Website and Shortly after that, Williams withdrew from the church and became what he called a seeker. History does not record why he would not identify himself as a Baptist. Faithful Word Baptist Church is a young, family-integrated church. When a congregation results from the preaching of the Gospel, authenticating that congregation as a New Testament church rests solely on its doctrine and practice.not in its affiliation. What Is An Independent Fundamental Baptist Church? The Road to Emmaus Baptist Church is an independent Baptist church in Monaca, Pennsylvania. That godly Deacon, so righteous on the outside, may have deep dark unrepentant sins no one know about. Do you think you can bring others to Christ in this manner? It sounds like you believe that we are not required to tithe, but somehow we are better off if we do? If I wanted to tithe I wouldnt know where to go, because tithes were paid to a levitical priest. The crime of these men was that they believed the Bible was Gods Truth, and rejected dictates of false churches and men. Read all (mor ethan on epost under name Lynne). Benedict in his history of the Baptists states the Gospel was preached in Britain within sixty years of the Lords return to heaven. But wouldnt Paul himself, or the original church to whom the letter was sent, count as outside authority and control? Though many people including Websters Dictionary refers Baptists as being Protestants, it is not correct to refer to them as such or to lump all non-Catholic denominations in one group and label them Protestant. The crucial point is not that they called themselves Baptists, but they followed the Bible as their sole authority for faith and practice. In 1678, shortly after the church had erected a new building, the Puritan controlled government nailed its doors shut and forbade anyone under penalty of the law to enter or worship there. 10 Myths About the King James Version, 68. Visit Pinterests profile on Pinterest. It is an important part of the church. While I do agree that there are some things that tradition has failed on (i.e. It was not founded because a line of Baptist churches down through history. One of the most unsettling things to experience is dealing with corruption in power. For example when Jesus said to not store up treasures on earth where they would persih but in HeavenI believe Hes refering to at least in part some Godly endeavors (that often take money)that we do for His namesake. KJV Independent, Fundamental Baptist Churches in the USA . For example, Paul wrote letters to the churches, each being intended for one church, and then other churches used them and later they were accepted as fully inspired parts of Scripture. In 1638, he landed in Boston and settled for a short time in Piscataway (now Dover) in New Hampshire. The charge recorded against him was that he broached and divulged new and dangerous opinions against the authority of the magistrates. So I wonder again is this God desire or your thing? I went on to share with her that in that same passage it says, singing psalms, hymns (which by the way modern churches are throwing out) and spiritual songs. Im calling into question yourreasoning as to why you are defending your belief about tithing. "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am . Again, its not about how we dress, but about who we are. (David Benedict, A General History of the Baptist Denomination in American, and Other Parts of the World, London: Lincoln and Edmands, Nr. (II Peter 1:20) Baptist believe you do not have to be a Baptist in order to be saved and have eternal life, but a person must believe the Gospel as revealed in the New Testament. Soul liberty is a belief that everyone is responsible to God individually. However, tithing has nothing to do with your Salvation To fulfill something as in Jesus fulfilled the law means that it is satisfied, meaning that it is no longer needed. After Roger Williams stepped down, Thomas Olney took over as the pastor of the church in Rhode Island. You will find, to the left, a tags cloud as well as a category drop down menu. I do not agree with the IFB on their viewpoint of strict dress standards. I believe that the Bible is clear on what is modest apparel. In 1684, a Baptist church in Maine seeking greater religious liberty was relocated to Charleston, South Carolina. 3:8-13) are appointed from the local congregation and approved by the majority vote. I am a former fundamental baptist member, I would like to request any assistance on clarification regarding the contradictions of doctrine of Paul and Jesus. I would like comment on each trait if you dont mind: 3:3). It is well to note that not all Virginians felt this way. No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him, and I will raise him up at the last day., Based on the Word of God, I submit to you that Gods plan will not be thwarted because I fail to do something. 6) teach old testament tithing new testamenent giving is found in 2 Cor 9:7 Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. Thomas Jefferson is believed to have been deeply influenced to press for religious freedom in American, by the plight of several Baptist preachers he knew. Our church stresses the importance of listening to music that is Christ-honoring and doesnt sound like war as the music mentioned while worshiping the golden calf in the Old Testament (inspired Scripture) The Pharisees tithed on all their belongings. amzn_assoc_placement = "adunit0"; amzn_assoc_tracking_id = "lifewaymarket-20"; amzn_assoc_ad_mode = "manual"; amzn_assoc_ad_type = "smart"; amzn_assoc_marketplace = "amazon"; amzn_assoc_region = "US"; amzn_assoc_linkid = "7e0c08952d33ff8dd3379356ab6731f1"; amzn_assoc_asins = "1479180297,B00A4SKJXG,1250026261,0830816607,0809134888,0884197689,B00X531UN0,0877888256,0764205374"; amzn_assoc_title = "BaptistDeception.com Book Club Picks"; Since there is no membership at CCs, the congregation neither votes a pastor in, nor can vote their pastor out, if necessary, unlike a Baptist church. But we need YOUR help to make this project successful! - Truth and Song I recently read an article essentially asking this same question, What's Wrong With the Independent Fundamental Baptists? Nope, dont see that. You can tell right away that something doesnt sound right. Independent Fundamental Baptist - Jesus-is-Savior.com Also, and Im not sure how to word this question properly, but during the building of the original NT church as described in Acts and further in the rest of the NT, wouldnt they have had to subscribe to some form of outside authority and control in order for the church to be formed? Whether these groups of believers called themselves Baptists or not, if they were doctrinally pure, following the New Testament for their faith and practice they were New Testament churches and thus they can be called Baptistic. Even the Roman Catholic Church which boasts of his unbroken history cannot prove an unbroken line of churches earlier than the Third Century, and what Catholicism teaches today in no way resembles what the New Testament teaches or what the early churches believed and practiced. That saintly old woman in the pew may be depending upon her infant baptism to get her to heaven. Jesus Peace, Joy, and Guidance be with us all. They are the only group into modern times whose churches were founded on the Scriptures alone and not on the traditions or works of some man. God bless. 14Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell. Proverbs 23:13-14 see how silly that way of using scripture is? An Independent Baptist Church would not be apart of a national organization that would exercise authority over the local church. In answer your assumptions about me. But still, I think if I wanted to lead Worship wearing Just a speedo I probably would not be allowed to do this in most Churches. Anyone not holding Episcopal ordination was forbade to hold services. A person can rightly take pride in truthfully bearing the name Baptist. He states there were Baptists in England 1400 AD. (See also Gal. 77. I dont know of any areas where their teachings are unbiblical or fundamental. God has not entrusted that authority to impart salvation to any man or church. The Bible and only the Bible reveals to men how to have their sins forgiven and have everlasting life and heaven. Our goal here has always been to provide encouragement and resources for independent Baptists. And that homeless man that shows up every few weeks may have truly accepted Christ in the past, but events of life led to his downward spiral. Tithing is no longer a requirement and God doesnt not require a tithe for obedience as is preached in todays churches. Any idiot can do that. I do however disagree with anyone mandating that a tenth should go to them & to the church as they see fit only (like giving some to other Christiann Ministries, some to local churche , etc) or that even mandates a tithe. (man of God). The name Fundamental Independent Baptist is of recent origin and came into being because many modern day Baptist churches compromising the Word of God and teaching and practicing false doctrines.
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