Dave Coffee houses. In no sense am I a Fonda apologist. Denying a final victory over a dedicated and skilled marxist enemy was a recipe for the murder of our men. OLIVER NORTH, HOST, "WAR STORIES": Actually, she's not really apologizing. I plead with him, You have to be sure those photographs are not published. I should have been clearer that my anger back then was at the Nixon Administration. Congress held hearings. Jane Fonda Screw you. In 2005, she apologized again on 60 and how good she feels in her 70s. Hows this for a story? I got the main point across. She said It is possible it was a setup, I will never know. SIGN UP FOR OUR FREE DAILY NEWSLETTER, FIRST TAKE, Megyn Kelly Trashed by Rosie O'Donnell as 'Spineless Wanna Be Barbie' for Jane Fonda Spat, 'Jane Fonda in Five Acts' Film Review: Doc Explores the Many Lives of the Actress-Activist, How Jane Fonda Explains 'Hanoi Jane': 'Regret to My Dying Day', said she was among those at Fox News sexually harassed by Ailes. We're trained. Youre gonna come through it, okay. It was my mistake and I have paid and continue to pay a heavy price for it.. During an interview with Barbara Walters 35 years ago, Oscar-winning actress Jane Fonda apologized for being used as propaganda for North Vietnam when we were still fighting North Vietnam. The one story that was true never touched the question of whether or not she directly participated in war crimes. So setting aside the issue of whether plastic surgery has anything to do with Vietnam, is Kelly right about Fondas record? ED GRUMMETT, USMC: The night before we made the landing at Chu Yuan (ph) we were listening to Hanoi Hannah and how they were going to annihilate us on the beach. One of the definitions of treason is giving aid and comfort to the enemy. Among the products sold expressing veterans' disdain for Fonda are a variety of bumper stickers, envelope stickers, sew-on patches, but evidently D&G no longer carries my favorite Fonda item, a urinal pad depicting Jane Fonda's photograph. Del. "STRATAGEMS of DEFEAT AND NO-WIN WARS They realized that the war was wrong, that we werent wanted there. Again the secret policy of the financiers was: "containment of communism" while disallowing an American victory. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Here it is. Jane Fonda was always an outspoken opponent of the Vietnam War. The cameras flash. Just before that experience, she said the words that continued to play through her head were: All men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. T. Jefferson. But the action that still enrages veterans most was that photograph of her with North Vietnamese troops onan antiaircraft gunthat would have been used to shoot down American planes. Just another old women of no consequence, don't give her any credit for ending the war, people like John Kerry and Max Cleland don't even think it's over yet. Due to the pressure of so-called "rationalists", Article VI, Paragraph 3 of the Constitution forbids Congress from excluding Communists, Anti-Semites, or Globalists from its membership, allowing the control that you decry. Kelly responded with a cannon by bringing up the time Fonda posed on a North Vietnamese anti-aircraft gun. These men were bombing and strafing and napalming the country, she said. : Yes, that one story was true. [5] One man who was supposed to have encountered Jane Fonda, one Colonel Larry Carrigan, has denied any claim that he ever met her. WebDaughter of legendary Henry Fonda, actress, and activist was one of the most outspoken people against the Vietnam War at the age of 34. JANE FONDA: it was a mistake to go, I never wanted to go to any military installations. Four die; one, Col. Larry Carrigan, survivesjust barely, but it is he who tells about the incident. But the reality of it is, Alan, this is a woman,who I quite frankly feel sorry for. JANE FONDA: It was a terrible mistake. This story hearkens to a real visit to North Vietnam by Jane Fonda in July of 1972, but the stories about betraying POWs is not true. The Fonda trip became unforgettable because it infuriated Americans, especially Americans in uniform, many of whom still regard her as a traitor. You have "War Stories" coming up. On the basis of those meetings alone, she proclaimed that American POW's weren't being mistreated, and that any who said they were mistreated werte either liars, or were simply experiencing punishment for their racist treatment and attitude towards their Vietnamese captors. But now, very quickly, treason is the only crime defined in our Constitution. She was young and famous at the time, maybe the Iraqi insurgents could get some of the present crop of empty headed celebrities, Britney Spears perhaps, to pose next to those Muslim mopes in robes and head towels while they aim their weapons. Ramsey Clark went to Hanoi during the war. Her rebellion against the foreign policies of the United States suggested to many outraged Americans that treason might have an All-American face, a familiar accent, and be closer to home than the Other that had previously been assumed to embody the enemy. Donald www.DanandGEnterprises.com But he never met Jane Fonda, and he has no idea how the maddening tale attached itself to him. MacArthur publicly insisted upon victory, infuriating the international banks. Hundreds of Americans had gone to North Vietnam, journalists diplomats, our Secretary of State Ramsey Clark, Vietnam veterans, but I said but a movie star hasnt gone and maybe if I go it will draw more attention, and thats what it did. Jane Fonda Fonda said that whileshe may have been tricked into taking the picture, The buck stops here. But because of the nature of Vietnam, McNamara said to me, if wed known what we know now it would have we should not have gone out. Fonda has refused to tell her side of the story to historians investigating her role, purportedly because she was saving her story for her own memoirs, which are expected to be published soon. There was a real Colonel Carrigan, and he was a POW in Vietnam. JANE FONDA: Well, I didnt like it. He collects a group of American POWs from their septic dungeons, cleans them up, and has them mustered on parade to show his guest how well his embattled nation treats its prisoners. Mao Tse-Tung, of "Little Red Book" fame, and darling of the New York-Hollywood "elite", then proceeded to murder 65 million of his countrymen in what David Rockefeller and Zbigniew Brzezinski call "a glorious revolution." Email us. Ms. Fonda only met with those POW's who had sold out their fellow POW's, who willingly (without torture) made propaganda statements for their captors, and who enjoyed privileges of medical care, food, and even night-time excursions into Hanoi to watch movies in return. NORTH: These are the things that this woman did, and she has not apologized. There was a real Colonel Carrigan, and he was a POW in Vietnam. Yet, despite treason in high places American troops - outnumbered ten-to-one - were winning the war. Or to keep it anonymous, click here. The other stories allege a far more direct participation in war crimes on the part of Fonda. I was not the kind of mother that I wished I had been to my children. The charges against Fonda went beyond the notion that she was an apologist for the mistreatment of American prisoners of war. The buck stops here. And that we probably couldnt win it not because they werent a fabulous soldiers. Outspoken host Elisabeth Hasselbeck left "The View" to join "Fox & Friends" in 2013, which she exited at the end of 2015. Heres the picture that was used to shut shut down American plants, critics, and there were millions of them, called you a Hanoi Jane and said you were a traitor. MacArthur soon realized he was expected to win battles but lose the war. And number three: you've got the propaganda broadcasts themselves, where she substitutes for Hanoi Hannah, who broadcasts to the American troops all the time. Meanwhile the mass media suddenly reversed its pro-war policy: denying our beleaguered troops moral support from home. You're a great American. I mean, the fact is, there's no statute on treason, by the way. I spent many years its when I made coming home talking to American soldiers, who had been in Vietnam and the things they told me were heartbreaking. wars the intention of which is not to win but to bleed) is quite plausible. Respected online resources such as Snopes, Truth Miners, and Urban Legends have all cited key persons in the infamous email as having refuted its claims. He hadnt liked the story but at least was willing to discuss it. And, you know, I think they thought, Oh, shes this white privilege rich, famous daughter of all of that stuff. She went to tour the countrys It may be an old story, but being that she never stood trial for her actions still make her case an open book. So did Joan Baez and William Sloane Coffin, Noam Chomsky and Pete Seeger, Rennie Davis and Judy Collins. Sending Out Veterans' Benefits, The Executive Branchs Response to the Flood of 1927, The Case For Calling the Language "American", America Fought Its Own Battle Over Books Before it Fought the Nazis. Thats what made me laugh. Her suit was later settled for a reported $20 million. We have no right to bomb military targets in Vietnam. She went to tour the countrys dike system, which was rumored to have been intentionally bombed by American forces something the U.S. government to this day forcefully denies. Andrea Tantaros, former co-host of "The Five," filed a lawsuit saying that Fox News operated like a "sex-fueled, Playboy-Mansion-like cult.". . HANNITY: That's quite often in my case, by the way. After countless apologies spanning four decades, Breitbarts John Nolte believes Hanoi Jane Fonda should finally be forgiven for her antics in Vietnam.. Fonda has said categorically that she was an adult at the time and called her Jane Fonda Jane Fondas first impression of Americas involvement in Vietnam was that it was a just cause. On a hot, stickyMay afternoon in 1970,a crowd of several thousand students and protesterstook over the University of Maryland mall. She said:I have very few regrets. During the visit she posed for several pictures. I mean, the reality is, there were 24,000 American troops on the ground in South Vietnam. NORTH: In fact refused to apologize for the POW meeting, which was tantamount to, basically torture. Quite the contrary. It never happened. He didnt live to see it published. She has said that she regrets doing this. Her attackers renewed an old strike against the image of an actress who grew up as the daughter of the All-American Henry Fonda, yet became synonymous with the various rebellions of the Sixties. Here are her comments: Many of our veterans still call her Hanoi Jane thanks to her radio broadcasts, which attempted to shame American troops. Heres how we saw the article we ran: It is a survey of the singular career of a woman who both drove and was driven by many of the largest social concerns of her era, and who came to embody some of them. "Hanoi Run" from USSR to Viet Nam, was produced in Russian plants that had been built by American companies and financed by the Federal Reserve System. Fonda was lambasted for her trip to North Vietnam in 1972 during the Vietnam War. placement: 'Right Rail Thumbnails', In fact, when the Tet Offensive broke, Jane Fonda was the featured pinup girl in that months issue of Leatherneck , the official publication of the Marines. For example, she went on Radio Hanoi a number of times, while our troops, your friends, were being shot at by an enemy in Vietnam, saying our POWs were in good health. . Thus, the U.S.A. deliberately betrayed its former ally Chiang Kai-Shek and gave mainland China to communism. The financial elite then move into the vacuum, establish central banks, and issue debt-credit to the devastated populations. I dont know what else to do. NORTH: The real story about Vietnam. ET!. Now, aid and comfort can be measured a lot of ways. Once U.S. forces were committed in large numbers the U.S. federal government, as in Korea, prohibited them from attacking specified enemy sanctuaries (staging areas) into which the communists retreated, regrouped, re-armed and launched renewed attacks. No, after the Left's "victory" in the United State's withdrawal from Southeast Asia, the matter of consequences was conveniently dropped from the discussion. You know, we can we can scare her, and boy did they try? Greta Van Susteren -- who had been one of Ailes' most stalwart defenders -- left in early September 2016 after saying that Fox had "not felt like a home" for years. I am going to let the extract stand as it is, containing just enough truth to be uncomfortable, I think. Fonda traveled to Hanoi, Vietnam, to protest the Vietnam War, but she did not do most of the things the post claims. Mr. Nolan wrote something that helped me better understand the fury of this sort of reaction. True. That's an apology. Enjoy the rest of the conversation. Quotes displayed in real-time or delayed by at least 15 minutes. I mean, it depends on what you want to know. I mean, the reality of it is that's not an apology. Each of them suggested that they had done at least one interview with Fonda, and individually they were looking into the historical accuracy behind the claims made about Fonda and why she became such a lighting rod for controversy. Jane Fonda was more than just an actress born to a wealthy and prominent Hollywood family. For a great many people, its not enough that Jane Fonda went to North Vietnam, offered encouragement to an army that was daily killing her countrymen, climbed up on that anti-aircraft gun, insisted that all American prisoners were well treated, and so on. If I was used, I allowed it to happen. If I was Vietnamese, I probably would have tried to do the same thing, you know, but I should not have gone. Did our government lie to us during Vietnam? Its more than being a traitor; millions of Americans felt treasonous during that war. 2023 FOX News Network, LLC. Someone (I dont remember who) leads me toward the gun, and I sit down, still laughing, still applauding. One showed her applauding North Vietnamese anti-aircraft gunners. "Flashpoint Vietnam," the real story about the road to the war. She went to Hanoi that year to tour villages, cities and infrastructure. A series of photos of her sitting at an NVA anti-aircraft battery earned her the nickname Hanoi Jane and the undying spite of Vietnam veterans everywhere. There were also rumors she turned over secret messages from POWs to their captors. It is nothing more and nothing less than the full culmination of Greco-Roman Humanism as it has defined itself throughout the thousands of years. "CHINA: Following WWII, Mao Tse-Tung, financed by the international banks, led his Chinese communists in an armed conflict against nationalist China under Generalissimo Chiang Kai-Shek, America's ally against Japan. Never. and booed people attending the event, according to the Frederick News-Post. Did we lie about the body that we planted on Omaha Beach (search), trying to convince the Germans that we were going to land somewhere else? Its something very like the worst sort of lovers betrayal, the deep wound that time itself often is powerless to heal. The 85-year-old Fonda has had a lengthy career as a Hollywood icon that includes her current turn in the film 80 For Brady, an equally long stint as an outspoken liberal, a fitness craze that began in the infancy of home video, and much more. The POWs are beaten. Megyn Kelly Fact-Check: The Truth About Jane Fonda and Vietnam ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. However, since the majority of the stories cited in the e-mail have no proof behind them, I had to either give the e-mail "thumbs down" or "thumbs up" on the basis of the overall validity. Jane Fonda Runs Through Stunning Array of Responses to CHRIS WALLACE: Your most famous protest was 50 years ago when you went to North Vietnam at the height of the war there. Shewas active in the Black Panthers and marched for the rights of American Indians, soldiers and working mothers. North Vietnamese press reported and Fonda later confirmed that she made several radio announcements over the Voice of Vietnam radio to implore U.S. pilots to stop the bombings. Kellysaid she was among those at Fox News sexually harassed by Ailes. _taboola.push({ She still does not know what she did wrong. The cover called her Ms. And I refused to have them scare me away from being actively against the Vietnam War. . NORTH: Irrefutable for the three things she did, and I defined for you the rule, the actual constitutional language defining treason. I mean again, I'm not trying to be pedantic about it, but an apology is, "I'm sorry for what I said. Megyn Kelly ended her 12-year run with Fox News in early 2017 in exchange for a weekday show at NBC. On this weeks edition of HBO Max and CNNs Whos Talking to Chris Wallace, the host covered much of that territory, including that 1972 visit. Troop D, 1st squadron, 4th Cavalry, RVN, 1966-7 I never asked pilots to desert. She did not merely criticize the authoritarian government of South Vietnam, or the dubious motives of powerful corporations that make up the American military-industrial complex. Thank you, sir. Even so, I'm going to keep an eye open to purchase one of the urinal mats with her photograph depicted upon it. Alisyn Camerota hosted a number of Fox News programs during a 16-year run that ended in 2014. FONDA: I'm charging the government with genocide, with genocide. I mean, he realized that . Have a tip we should know? Jane Fonda Fast Facts I believe Jane Fonda has talked to at least two historians. They have never acknowledged their role in the killing fields of Cambodia and fail to discuss the fact that Vietnam, one of about four communist countries left on the face of this earth, is currently at the bottom rung of third world nations in terms of per capita income. He hadnt liked the story but at least was willing to discuss it. Have a tip or story idea? Powered and implemented by FactSet Digital Solutions. MacArthur was denied his request to attack enemy forces massing across the Yalu border in preparation for attack. 5:15 After numerous apologies over four decades, its time to let Hanoi Jane Fonda off the hook for Vietnam. In 1972, Fonda toured North Vietnam, where she spoke against U.S. military policy in the country. From Urban Legends: I appealed to them to please consider what you are doing. To begin with, the title is deliberately misleading: his real point has nothing to do with Jane Fonda. And I didnt even think and they sang me a song and Im made me laugh. She also spoke about her infamous protests. The Veterans of Foreign Wars passed a resolution calling for her to be prosecuted as a traitor. I mean, the reality is, there were 24,000 American troops on the ground in South Vietnam. Chiang refused to be extorted, citing his revulsion of the international banking cartel. Quotes displayed in real-time or delayed by at least 15 minutes. Did Jane Fonda Really Apologize for Vietnam? Oliver North Weighs In One of the times it did, Im happy to say, was with Keith Nolan, the author of several books on the war, most recently Ripcord , a superb account of the 101st Airborne in the conflicts last great battle. [3] She praised the USSR for their support of the Viet Cong. Jane Fonda You will not be surprised to hear that I have bowdlerised the above considerably, removing racial designators and course expressions of various sorts. Nobody remembers, nobody cares. Jane Fonda sparked outrage among war veterans when she was pictured sitting on an anti-aircraft gun in 1972 during the Vietnam War, earning her the nickname Hanoi Jane. Jane, now 84, is Thats what made me laugh. I went to a session at the 2003 Peace History Society Conference in Mt. Heres the picture that was used to shut shut down American plants, critics, and there were millions of them, called you a Hanoi Jane and said you were a traitor. Jane Fonda Comes Clean, Admits She Was Bad Mother: I was not Why? CHRIS WALLACE: Who the people in the Nixon administration? For 70 years, American Heritage has been the leading magazine of U.S. history, politics, and culture. The day anti-Vietnam War protesters tried to levitate the Pentagon. And the more they tried, the more I. JANE FONDA: I know what Im doing. I suppose that since I am never really planned to be an Intern next semester (not in a full time sense, save as a researcher), and since my term is essentially over, I can join the conversation as Joe Public. They hadnt been able to vote on the virtues of the conflict, and they found themselves in mortal peril in the midst of an ugly, painful ordeal that a lot of vocal people back home thought was a criminal enterprise. Here's the record, number one: you've got the photo on the anti-aircraft gun that you add on during the transition. Only the bankers know. Why are people more angry at Jane Fonda that they are against, say, Lyndon Johnson and Richard Nixon, the people really responsible? The war was being fought by the air during during the Nixon administration. She now hosts "New Day" on CNN. It evidently didnt. I have great, great children, talented, smart, and I just didnt know how to do it. Whether youre a lifelong resident of D.C. or you just moved here, weve got you covered. And it was a terrible mistake because of the image that it showed, which was not at all what the reality was. Fonda addresses the media in December 1972 to protest U.S. military involvement in the Vietnam War. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. Jane Fonda And I was I was like a limp noodle what I had experienced and what I had seen, I just I wasnt able to resist, they said were gonna take you out here today. Forget? 1990) Pages 121-123. Unforgiven | AMERICAN HERITAGE Nixon has responsibility for everything he did or didn't do on his watch. If it wasn't I must be missing something. I sang a song. Legal Statement. I dug in my heels. After we published Peter Braunsteins article on Jane Fonda in our July/August issue, perhaps 60 people sent me this story. Heres what she said in 2011: In my anger at the torture story that was being allowed to spread, at how the entire situation was being manipulated, I made a mistake I deeply regret. There's no denying that she defamed POWs by whitewashing the Viet Cong's treatment of them and later calling them liars when they spoke out." Trusted Writing on History, Travel, and American Culture Since 1949. Pleasant Michigan, where Mary Hersberger (Capital University) and Jerry Kembcke (Holy Cross College) both gave papers on Fonda. There's no statute of limitations on it. They hadnt been able to vote on the virtues of the conflict, and they found themselves in mortal peril in the midst of an ugly, painful ordeal that a lot of vocal people back home thought was a criminal enterprise. http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/weekly/aa110399b.htm. Content and Programming Copyright 2005 Fox News Network, L.L.C. Her book just may not make the bestseller It's not just handing out, you know, blankets. And that we probably couldnt win it not because they werent a fabulous soldiers. In Hanoi, Fonda also met with seven American POWs and later said they asked her to tell their friends and family to support presidential candidate George McGovern; they feared theyd never be freed during a Richard Nixon administration. 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She has to be a murderess too. Jane didnt make her infamous and idiotic trip to Hanoi until 1972. GRUMMETT: Don't worry about it, you know? Id been getting pretty sour about the incensed patriots who would curse me and my family and confidently speak on behalf of all veterans living and dead, and the Great Jehovah and the Continental Congress, to declare I was a disgrace to America for running that storythen conclude by smugly assuring me they would never read it. [5]http://www.snopes.com/military/fonda.asp; http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/weekly/aa110399b.htm; http://www.truthminers.com/truth/hanoi_jane.htm; cited on November 24, 2004. An analogy: I'm more upset by somebody coming into my house and stealing from me than I am by a tax increase, or even by government malfeasance. I mean, you know, of all manner of slings and arrows were thrown my way. This, probably more than anything, earned her the nickname Hanoi Jane.. Market data provided by Factset. February 25, 2023 / Jack Marshall. or redistributed. And you know, maybe I was set up but I was an adult, its Im gonna take responsibility for it. https://twitter.com/MegynTODAY/status/955454505067470848. Screw you. Jane Fonda Jane Fonda Why? Id been getting pretty sour about the incensed patriots who would curse me and my family and confidently speak on behalf of all veterans living and dead, and the Great Jehovah and the Continental Congress, to declare I was a disgrace to America for running that storythen conclude by smugly assuring me they would never read it. Aristide was an ENEMY of Communism, hence his downfall. She posed on an anti-aircraft gun used to shoot down our American pilots. She was photographed sitting on a North Vietnamese anti-aircraft gun on a 1972 visit to Hanoi, during which she gained the nickname "Hanoi Jane". All rights reserved. Jane Fonda came clean in an interview with Chris Wallace about her Hanoi Jane days and her failure as a mother. She called the POW's liars. This is not a legal transcript for purposes of litigation. She was a symbol of a divided nation. And I refused to have them scare me away from being actively against the Vietnam War. Joe? Laurie Dhue was a familiar presence on Fox in the early 2000s but left the network in 2008. I dug in my heels. Thousands more were on the way, including Ernie Wallace (ph) and Ed Grummett. Fonda told Wallace that she did not like the nickname she was given, but she stuck by her choice to oppose the war. She was a symbol of a divided nation. North Vietnam, 1972,: Jane Fonda is in the midst of her visit when an N.V.A. window._taboola = window._taboola || []; The POWs are beaten. There's nothing like a historian 'cherry-picking' his citations or only presenting a partial 'truth' from his source. What most Viet-Nam veterans think about Jane Fonda is expressed in a number of products sold by D & G Enterprises, She claimed she was sexually harassed by correspondent Brian Wilson and later spoke out against Fox News' culture after the Ailes scandal broke. Again and again against incredible odds, and at great cost in American casualties, U.S. forces stopped the enemy; but were prevented by President Truman from administering the coup de grace. At that time, over 60,000 American soldiers had lost their lives, and almost one million Vietnamese. Jane Fonda was on 3 times this week talking about her new book. As Jane Fonda promotes her new film, "Monster-in-Law", its up to all of us to let our children know about the specific activities she undertook during the Vietnam War.
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